Christ without Theology!

the·ol·o·gy

THēˈäləjē/

noun

the study of the nature of God and religious belief.

religious beliefs and theory when systematically developed.

Is it possible? Can we have this world please? Do you remember when you were saved by Grace and faith? Before the Greek and Hebrew text studies? Before the definition and need to say and repeat phrases like ontological Trinity, Oneness, and Arianism belief systems. Before you went out to debate with Mormons or Jehovah’s Witnesses because you just thought you really had them trapped in the corner, all the while you still had bones in your closet that you still needed to uproot causing them to represent a better view of God than you did. Long before you needed to be up front or have a position of authority in the church. Way back when you confessed Christ as you Lord and Savior? When you accepted him into your heart and all you wanted to do was to be closer to God through his Son and live holy? Remembering what it felt like to help others that needed help without judgement or shaming. Before you signed up for biblical study classes and studied prophecy meanings. Before you ever knew that there was anything called a literal translation of bible. Or before you even knew there was so many different bibles at all. You see, if you are like me, then you do remember these things. And if you are like me, you might have forgotten about what it was like back then because we are so weighed down with theology and man’s allegorical interpretations of scriptures. Now, that which is pure, innocent, and loving has been tied into Man’s attempts to define the One being that can’t be defined. What we had prior is what initially saved us. It is what is pure from Him. I personally have never felt a stronger connection to God than before theology became the center piece. And the biggest fact is that God never once required theology from us to be saved or to be his children. I just don’t see the need for a “Religious belief” if God seeks a “Relationship” with us. 

The God of Jesus!

The God of Jesus

1 Cor 8:6( it flat out says The Father, not the Son, is the true God)

6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him

Over and over again the scripture makes this fact known so many times. If it’s not Paul’s writing it’s John’s writings in John 17:3 – Revelations and many many other’s. Scriptures like this are found throughout the Bible in the NT of the scriptures. You read them and don’t think twice about them until it’s really put into your view. Praise be “the GOD” and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Clearly showing that the two subjects aren’t the same and clearly pointing out that one of the Subject is the God over the other. Now, what man has come up with ( which Scripture NEVER, I repeat NEVER says itself) is that the reason scripture says this is only because this addressed Christ as a human and being Born a man, it automatically creates the relations between his Father as his God because he was a human being. This, like I said above is never, ever, never said as the case. This thought is known as Theology ( Trinity or even possible Oneness if you believe Christ to be the Father) but it isn’t scripture stated. Nowhere does the bible support Christ having a God strictly because he was born a Man. I repeat again, Nowhere does the scripture ever define roles of having a God being placed on a man simply because he was born as a human. In fact, God says in his word, over and over again, that the God of you is who you choose to make it so with. A man can make a cow, money, even Satan his god and anything else if he chooses to. Another fact that is consistent is that we see no such requirement in scripture that defines God only to humans. Angels have their God as we see in Heaven. So different plains of existence would never automatically create relations of a God over a being. It didn’t matter where Christ was prior to earth, while on earth, or there after, Yahweh is and has always been the Head, Father, and God of Christ. If it wasn’t so, the moment All power and Authority was given to Christ and he returned to Heaven risen, Yahweh would no longer be presented as Christ’s God. But in Revelation, we clearly see the same role and submission of Christ still in the hands of his Father and God Yahweh in Revelation 3:12 and especially 1 Cor 15:24-28

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1Cor 15-24-28

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This is Christ talking directly to John(in Revelations). He declares, once again, while in heaven long after his return from Earth, no longer human, that he has a God over him that will give them a new name like He(God) will do for Him(Christ) as well. Christ specifically calls the temple his God’s Temple. And no matter what you feel and try to explain away, these are the words from the scriptures and original text. Unlike other scriptures out there that are debatable base on hermeneutics. Nobody disputes these statements in any translation. The True God has no Father or God over him, doesn’t need anyone to give him power and never prays to another or even calls another HIS God. These are pure facts, not opinions and theology made up rhetoric biasedness. These are the words from God’s directed Holy Spirit upon the writers of the Scripture, not doctored up to support man’s theology. Man will try their best to try and explain away something so simple and clear, from saying this is not submission, or that Christ did this out of love for the Father like a gift, or something else that helps them ease their minds that the word says that this was “Submission”. Submission isn’t something given as a gift by a God. Submission is given as owed because someone has Authority over you. The Bible words used here have direct meaning and purposefully are pointing out that the Son is under the Father’s rule and ONLY the Father stands as True God and Master over All things, people, and or beings, even the Son. This also put to bed another false Creed theology that tries to say that instead of the Father Being God himself, that he only has a portion of God of him. No scripture interpretation of God herr is ever looked at or translated to mean that this was not The Father alone in this verse. God doesn’t exist inside the Father, he is The Father through and through. Even most Trinity believers don’t know this about their creed. The average Trinity believer believes that the Father is Yahweh, the God, Father and Creator of all things. Most trinity people never look at the Father as to say that he has yet Another portion of the Being called God inside him but this is what the Doctrine of the Trinity really is. If you don’t believe look it up. Don’t go ask your pastor, your family, or friend. Look it up for yourself and know what you say you believe in. You will be surprised.

 

I should have known that other black men would make it their mission to continue to kick Fred Price Jr down!

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As most Church news have reported and talked about for a while now, Fred Price Jr stepped down from his position because he made mistakes that he believes disqualified him from being what he was called to be and was doing very well in, and that is being a teacher of the word of God. Fred Price Jr actually did something that most other ministers and positions holders in churches today don’t do. He didn’t hide behind his title and just ignored things. He didn’t continue to lie about things and didn’t make them go away with money. He made a mistake and he paid the price for it with his position, respect and family pain.

Unlike a lot of people, I truly know what goes on in most if not all churches that bring in money, and it isn’t pretty. Beyond the curtain call for Sunday morning lays hatred, jealous acts, sinful backbiting, and flat out plannings for how to gain more money from members by having more services and setting up fake coincidences to make people believe in the audience that the pastor just so happen to be talking about the same subject the choir just song about it, when it was set up like that for weeks. Yes, it’s ugly. It always is ugly because the same people that you work with that cursed you out are the same people going to the church down the street and working at the church. Whatever you see on Sunday mornings aren’t what is going on behind the scenes( I would never mention what churches). I remember when I first was exposed to the truth over and over again in different churches( it wasn’t just one). It almost destroyed me. They say the top two things you don’t want to know is how they make your beef and how the church is truly run. This is very true. So understanding that human nature exists and will always be the source of everything on this earth until the flesh is put away for good is key. Only small churches or denominations like the Jehovah’s Witness have the best setup in place to remove this temptation from the people that run the church. And even then they deal with it on different levels else where. In life, it’s the same. Where you find one sin and point, you find two more against yourself. The very fact that other people especially black men and ministers find it their business to post video’s about it and trying to come up with what they believe the reason is and continue to gossip and put down this man, is a sin itself. The bible actually places you into the same category as some of the most hateful sins in God’s eyes.

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Not only are these same people accused of such sins equal to or possibly worse than Fred Price Jr by continuing to gossip about this, but all the people out there that find pleasure and or support them in their actions are all guilty. So people should really be careful trying to bury someone that already took his punishment and stripes like a True Man of God, but they really need to look at themselves in the mirror. These same people smoke, drink, watch porn, look at sister Jones’s butty on a regular basis, fornicate, cheat, Molest or rape either physically or mentally. Somewhere, something stands against these people and instead of trying to make themselves feel better about their failures in their spiritual lives by gossiping they should find a message and lesson of sure encouragement in this tragedy. If this man can step away from all that he had by owning up to his mistakes and seek to become better, where can I apply such grace and mercy in my life or others?

Theology and traditions don’t determine your Salvation.

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Tradition and Theology have been taught so long in the churches for over a thousand years that people have forgotten that the scripture and God’s words determine salvation not man. From the very moment that man decided that they knew better than Christ it became so.  Men have always wanted to know more than others and be more than others. It was seen in Christ own disciples John and others. You saw with the Pharisees and those denominations that were given birth from the same mentality. You are taught that everything from the so call Crucifix( which can never be translated in its meaning or word from Starous) to the doctrine of the Trinity and other belief systems come from God. It has brainwashed all Followers of Christ to think that if you don’t believe these things that our Faith in Christ as the Son of God and Messiah is invalid. This type of thought pattern was pushed and forced on the Church from Rome/Jewish Pharisees, all the way down to the Catholic church. Men who thought it was necessary to define God, His son, Holy Spirit and create concepts of beliefs that they came up with but was never stated in scripture. In most cases, the scripture would say something completely different and yet men would not dare to question man in favor of God. Most people today don’t even know or understand that they believe things that are not required in scripture for you to believe in to be saved. They really believe that you can be closer to God in the Church building vs your home, even though the scripture tell you that you are the temple now. They really believe that a silver totem cross around their neck protects them even though the scripture defines this as idolatry. They bow down to images of God and or of his Son even though nobody knows how they look which again creates a false god and causing you to sin according to the Bible’s warning of graven images.  They pray to angels and Saints when there is absolutely no biblical approval or example to do so. They ignore Christ own example of how to pray which involves Exclusive pray to the Father Alone in Christ name. Not even the Son of God is allowed prayer to according to Christ himself and yet today Christians still do so without fail.  Theology and traditions teach you one thing but the actual real words from the original text paint a different story. Theology will force an image of a stake into a pagan Cross to be worshiped and painted on the sides of what man calls the “Houses of God”. And when cornered to show facts, they resort to saying “it really doesn’t matter what he died on” because they know they can’t support it. Well if it doesn’t matter, remove it and focus on Christ. Man will tell you unless you believe in the Trinity you are not of God or saved. Yet Christ stated the very foundation of his church is founded on understanding that he the Messiah and son of the Living God, not that he is God himself, not that he is a trinity and not any other concept created by man. No scripture places such a burden on you as to require you to come up with or believe in a theological concept created by men who today still say that can’t really be explained. Christianity has become so overwhelmingly based on the theology of men and not what God’s words say that we can no longer tell the difference between what is needed for salvation and what is needed for man’s acceptance. If you are a sound minded person that just doesn’t accept anything that is given to you just because they told you and you read for yourself you will one day see the issues I have with the current Churches and direction of the Faith. The need for Christ and his Father’s directions, not man, is really in need of a reboot for our Christians.

 

Pain felt in the Body of Christ!

Our lives are so painfully hard as men of God. If you don’t believe the struggle, it’s shown here. I don’t know for sure what the issue is but it hurts me so much to see this. I am a supporter of this man and his ministry. Are they a perfect church? No. Is he a perfect man? No. But who is, but Christ and his Father. As followers, we are attacked from all sides. I use to think that if you were a pastor or elder you were beyond the typical sin failure. I use to think if I stayed in the church or studying the Bible that this would result in me not falling towards sins or not having problems resisting it. This is so far from the truth. In my life, as well as others I have seen, there are great powers that reside against us. Great powers and principalities stand at odds against us. Things fall in line to present almost impossible probabilities that prove the attack is super natural. Yes, we have a greater source that is for us. But the problem is the temptation of used is God’s will according to scripture. He is not tempting you “himself” but it is still within his will that younare tested and tempted. So our lives aren’t some easy road traveled when we seek him or walk with him.  It’s at time unfair to me and my mind. But if God can lead Christ into temptation who are we to complain about going through the same thing? Most people don’t like accepting that scripture says this but it’s the truth. In fact I believe the lives we live today in many ways( not all) is harder to refrain from sin because of the accessibility of it. It’s everywhere and in everything. It’s a miricle that we still have his grace with as much as we could fall to and have fallen to in our lives. We fight every day of lives to do the right thing. Things that happen to us sometimes defy logic. Yes, we can put ourselves in certain circumstances but those aren’t the ones I’m referring to. I’m talking about the weird situations when you pick up an old Bible to study and the old picture of you X falls out of it, and after putting away, memories hit and that very person calls you or text you out the blue after 10-15 years of silence. Or that night that your husband or wife has done that one thing for the last time and you leave the house to cool off and you run right into your co-worker that has been in view for years and you are finally around each other for the first time outside of the job and all they want to do is just go somewhere and “talk”.  I get” the testing of our faith” and what it produces. I also understand God’s sovereignty. So unlike most, I don’t make excuses for it when it come across the scriptures. That being said, I still don’t understand it. I, being human, don’t get the cooperation God gives Satan’s kingdom during that temptation. I personally would rather have his protection against temptation not his approval to place me into it. People misquote scripture all the time believing that God doesn’t do this because God doesn’t tempt us. That’s right, he doesn’t “himself”. That’s what the scripture says. ” He “Himself” doesn’t do it but he will allow Satan and his kindgdom to do so. Then people that need to debate this try and rely on the word “allow”.  The word “Allow” to a complete sovereign God weighs much heavier than the word “Allow” when applied to Humans. For God to allow something to happen when he is conplete control requires his involvement to do so. Just like Job, Satan had to address God in every facet of the temptation and how strong or how far it would be allowed to go. So, it’s not something that happened that he wasn’t fully aware of in every point of the temptation. The biggest difference is that as a sovereign God he already knows if we will fail the temptation. And if he knows rather or not we will fail and still cooperates with allowing us to be tempted then what does that say? For me, as a human, I used to believed that if I am following him and putting myself in his word, that he would protect me from the temptation that I would fail in. This is wrong, case in point above. This is where it stings, this is where I hurt. To see this man that I know and have spoken to personally, fall to the point that he felt the need to step down is something that is more painful than anything I have felt in the last year or more. And to top it off, I honestly don’t have a answer to this or advice for others. I have yet to meet one man that is in any denomination that is exempt from failure in sin. I use to think that there was a way for me to grow and gain enough knowledge that I would be able to bypass failure in sinning. Its what I always thrived for and over the years I had to deal with the reality that I would never reach this nor has any other man no matter what they claim. Grace is all I can depend on it seems. “His grace is sufficient”. 

If Christ has a God and answers to a God then that God is the only true God. Why do we seek to avoid this Fact?

John 1.1. “1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”

One the biggest debates in denominations is the fight over John 1.1. It has been a hot button for years. The reason why this has been an ongoing issue is that theology has made it a point to place ones Salvation requirement into the theories of man. No more is Salvation based on the scripture but also now based on theology statements and beliefs. I have said this before but Salvation from Christ and theology are not the same. Christianity isn’t Christendom nor the Counsel of Nicea. Men making up theories about how to define God don’t control your Salvation through Christ. Christ is the Messiah and son of the Living God Yahweh. This is what your Salvation begins and ends with. It is not based on the trinity or any other theology man has come up with. There is no place found in scripture that concludes your Salvation being based on you believing that Christ was God or a god. There is no Salvation requirement that makes one required to explain how God and his Son became what they are. There are no Salvation requirements that requires you to be baptised only in a specific church building or any other bondage requirement that theology and denomations have place on you. So when scripture like John 1.1 is spoken about so heavily it always comes back to the simple fact that there are no Captial letters in scripture so in reality god or God is never the point. However, “The God” indefinite article is.  This creates a separation between the word vs The God. And this separation is only needed when you are comparing two separate beings while speaking and making a distinction between the two. When the Word is to referred to as God it is never with the indefinite article “The” as it was in the same sentence when referring to the Father. 

Ernest Cadman:  There are two issues affecting the translating of the verse, theology and proper application of grammatical rules. The commonly held theology that Jesus is God naturally leads one to believe that the proper way to render the verse is the one which is most popular.[19] The opposing theology that Jesus is subordinate to God as his Chief agent leads to the conclusion that “… a god” or “… divine” is the proper rendering.[20] Some scholars staunchly oppose the translation …a god,[21][22][23][24] while other scholars believe it is possible or even preferable.[25][26][27]

So the reason why the translation is more supported as “divine” is that the Son is subordinate to the Father. In fact the ultimate conclusion to the Son’s purpose is spelled out in great detail in 1Cor. 15:24-28. This verse boldly and undoubtedly tells you of the ulimate and last act of the Son. 

24Then comes the end, when he(the son)delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25For he(the son)must reign until (until shows a expiration, meaning not forever)he(the Father) has put all his(Christ)enemies under his(Christ)feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For “God (the Father)has put all things in subjection under his(Christ)feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he(the Father)is excepted who put all things in subjection under him(Christ). 28When all things are subjected to him(Christ), then the Son himself will also be subjected to him(The Father)who put all things in subjection under him(Christ), that God(The Farher alone) may be all in all.

*Without biases debates this verse alone kills off a great many arguements over Christs true role and defined place. He is clearly not equal to the Father and the Father is head over all things and gave Christ every single thing he has ever been given, even his Life(John 6:57). Nobody gives the Father anything, it’s his by his own right and soverity. This verse also shows you why Christ calls the Father both his God and the One true God. Because in the end, by definition alone, the Father is and will be the Only true God. It also shows you that this is not tied into Christ humanity. This happens well after he is no longer a man and had already rose to heaven and put away death.

Even during very simple events Yeshua was always looked upon as being Only the Son of the Living God not God. He never once required others to look at him as the One true God. Even his disciples and loved ones believed him to be different from his Father. 
But even now I know that whatever you ask from God, God will give you.” 23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” John 11:22

And Yeshua said to them, “But what is it you are saying about me as to who I am?” Shimeon answered and he said to him, “You are The Messiah, The Son of THE LIVING GOD.” Mark 8:29 Aramaic bible. 

In both of these accounts you see very clear that Mary spoke of Christ and God as separate beings not one of the same. She clearly understood and saw Christ as the Son of God, not God. And then on the second account Christ himself gave Credit to his disciple when the disciple simply referred to Christ as the Son of the Living God and Messiah. Christ himself said that this knowledge only came from the Father and that this was the foundation of his Church. He never once determined the foundation of the church to based on theology, the trinity, or if he was God or a god. Christ being the Jew’s Messiah and him being the Son of the Living God was the only key. 

So the focus should be on what Christ focused on. Him being the Messiah and the Son of the Living God. But for years we have been told otherwise for so long we lash out others that bring up facts like I have above. Once we settle down and move away from anger we then move to try and justify our beliefs or make excuses for them. We do this because it’s much easier to go on accepting tradition than to fight it. It’s much easier to go alone with the majority of the beliefs than to stand alone against others. I mean I can’t blame others for not wanting to accept things. You do have verses that declare solidly that Christ is called God. The one who sits at the throne should be called God but issue is that this same God we identify as Christ still has a God over him that he has to answer to. That same God he answers to, answers to nobody. 

Yeshua said to her. “Don’t cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to join my Father, and go join my brothers and say to them that I ascend to join my Father and your Father, my God, and your God.” John 20:17

So if Christ says that this God is his and our God we should listen because Christ knew that the identity of God he was given when he was seated on the throne would not be forever as shown above. This is why I submit that the term “Divine” over God or a god is a better translation for John 1:1. While still understanding that even if “God” is used, the key point is that Christ isn’t his Father nor is equal to him because you can never be equal to someone that gave you your position and power because it’s not yours by yourself. The Father is the whole reason Christ has life, the throne, power and glory. Not one time did anyone have to instruct the angels to worship The Father. The Father doesn’t exist because of the Son or Holy Spirit( for the trinity believers). The Father is eternal through and through. He has never died and can never die and has all power because it is his to begin with. It was never bestowed upon him like it was with the Son. These are flat out facts that can not be argued biblically or even with common sense. You may not like these facts but they are facts none the less. Until the next time.