Christendom for hundreds of years has been defined by men, not God. In the name of Christendom the Council of Nicea burned people alive to force the theory of the Trinity on people. In the name of Christendom Rome worshiped false idols and created totems that we still use today. In the name of Christendom, men mixed Pagan practices and superstitions with Yahweh’s commandments and his Son’s Directions. In a nut shell men have used Christendom as a excuse to pillage, rap, and force their own personal agenda on millions throughout the centuries in the name of our Savior Yeshua. This is the sad truth and one most Christians don’t want to hear about or know about but it’s still the truth. This is how Christianity got a bad name. In fact since Christ return to heaven “Every”, say “Every”, every single act of cruelty in the name of Christ has been done by this sectors of people in Christs body. So it’s no wonder why even the most peaceful Christ followers have such a bad time witnessing and convincing others of the true Agape Love of Christ that links us to our Father and God Yahweh. And regardless of the difference or wrong thoughts you feel about Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses, as a whole they represent, in action and deed, a better picture of Christ’s ways than the vast amount of the churches out there. Are there other peaceful followers not tied into Christendom and all it’s false traditions/ woreship of idols? Yes. But again, there is very little of them. We have to find a way to eliminate denominations and gather as one true church freed of the Pagan tradition and biased violence that has defined Christendom. Only then will we ever be what he wants us to be. Follow Christ ways, not Man!
As you read the Bible over and over you always will find different things. Some of this is because we read what we want to see in scripture and not allow the scripture to tell us what we should see. I know this because it has happened to me. It has happened to all of us, especially when it comes down to our denomination. We are really quick to quote and attach man made up concepts and preach them as required truth for Salvation when the Bible never requires such. We have some denominations out there that flat out believe and confess that the Bible’s direction about how to worship and what to believe only stands as a second voice after what they do and believe, not the source for the direction for them to follow. In other words they believe they set what is right and accepted first then th Bible(Catholics). To me, that’s scary, but not surprising. Everyone of us wants to keeps our views no matter how many times the Bible corrects that view. Tradition means more to us than the Bible. Tradition for most people creates our own version of God, while the Bible’s version of God remains pushed away or even unknown compared to the image we made up or preached about. The church will preach about the love of God but the Bible also tells us about the absolute soverity, control, and fury of God too. The Bible also shows clear distinct separation of God and his Son, The lamb , while man tries over and over again to ignore the hundreds of verses that separate them over and over again.
1. Jesus counted himself and his Father as two, not “one.” John 8:17 and 18: “In your own law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father.” Jesus confirmed this truth in John 14:1 when he said: “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.” There are literally hundreds of scriptures like these that set forth Jesus and God as separate and distinct beings. “Whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the son” (2 John 9). The Scripture clearly recognizes the Father and the Son, but not “both” of them as “one God.”
2. The Bible always portrays God and Christ as two separate beings. Examples are far too many to list, but a few are: When Stephen saw them just before his death, he saw “the son of man standing at the right hand of God” (Acts 7:56); the Church Epistles are authored by both God and Christ; God and Christ rule in the eternal city of Revelation (Chapter 21).
3. Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”John 20:17..Even Jesus tells others he has a God.. don’t you understand the weight of this statement. The risen Christ, with all power and authority “Given”to him tells Mary without doubt that she is to look at the Father as her God and even His. If you are to do this, truly do this for all that it means you can not believe in the Trinity or Oneness. If I can be condemned to Hell for believing Christ’s own words, then so be it. But last I checked Christ is the only one that determines this, not man,not even God, the Father, will judge, he has given that duty to his Son, the Christ and Lamb. And here again, the Bible clearly is making a clear separation of the two. Everything Christ has in power and authority is not his because he owned it , it’s only his because his father who is head over all things, including head of the Son, gave it to him temporarily. 1 Corinthian 15:24-28.
4. The Bible is clear that Jesus is the “image of God” (Col. 1:15; 2 Cor. 4:4). If Christ is the image of God, then he cannot be God, because you cannot be an image of someone and the real person at the same time. If you see a photograph of us, you see our image and you can learn a lot about us from it, but the image is not the real us. Christ is the image of God.
The list goes on and on and on. Even the disciples like Paul open up his letters with clear separation from Jesus and God. What we do is take scripture like John 1.1and create some kind of hidden code for Salvation. Not having a indefinite article means everything in this verse but more importantly what was Christ view?
Traditionally, things like the trinity and oneness have been shoved down our throats for so long that we defend it with great passion and anger, all without one willing ear to listen or true examination. Why? Because the church has lied to it’s members to make them believe that when man, hundreds of years after the day of Pentecost and thousands of people who didn’t even know about a trinity or oneness belief, started coming up with philosophical debates and concepts to make themselves feel better and important, that this actually has a say in your Salvation. The trinity concept is man’s theory, oneness is man’s theory, even Arianism are all just men needing to make up theories about God to feel important. None of these views must be present in your mind or heart for the Power of Christ’s blood to forgive you from your sins. None of this is needed for your acceptance of Christ sacrifice/resurrection, and the confession of him being the son of the Living God to work for righteousness. If you can ever really see this it will free you from a lot of fear and bondage. Allow good translated scripture to show you truth through the power of His Spirit. Quote from it and believe on it not man’s denominational rules for Salvation or the biased translated versions of the Bible to push denomination. You just have to really study and accept his word not assumptions. But once you see this for yourself the scripture words that you have read your whole life will be seen clearer and your eyes will forever be open and you will wonder how in the world you skipped over that simple truth that the Bible shows us over and over, that Jesus too has a God.
Sometimes in Man’s seeking of knowledge and to be seen and respected, they lose themselves to complicated theories and create their own Doctrines. This has been the path for thousands of years. Because of this, we have today what we see now…Denominations that stretch from one end of the earth to the other. As I have mentioned in my previous entries, I seek Christ without Man’s Theology. The Christ seen in the bible had no such requirements as man has placed on the church throughout the world. Everything from added requirements of Salvation based on creeds, rituals, to the suits and ties that are worn in service have nothing to do with your salvation. Now, this doesn’t mean that there are no requirements from you for your salvation. You still must accept Christ and his sacrifice and resurrection and as he says himself, “if you love me, keep my commandments. There is no such scripture that teaches you that those who are really for his kingdom got to continue in their sin’s and live for their flesh. “Be Holy because I am holy” (1 Peter 1:16). But where does the Salvation begin? It begins with one simple question? “Who do you say that I am?”. This is the knowledge and statement that the entire true church is built off of, as Christ said himself. The Author and finisher of our Faith have already told us the requirement of his Church, so who are you to add more. Have you thought about the simplicity of this question? Or have you allowed others to add more than what even Christ asked of Peter for your salvation? Look at this verse! Look at 2 facts about what the statement doesn’t say compared to man’s requirements.
- Peter was not asked if Christ was God or a god.
- Peter was not asked to believe in or explain Christ as apart of a Trinity
Nothing about these issues ever came up during the whole ministry work of Christ. No one time did Christ bring to the table the concept of the Trinity, Him being God or a god, and or any other Theology debate that separates our churches from being one because of our denominations. The answer Christ looked for was very simple, He IS the Son of the Living God, the Messiah!
Let’s look at the Just and Merciful God we serve here, the God that is against confusion and look at our denominations that spread across this earth. We don’t represent anything close to what he describes as his Church. If one was just to use the scripture without trying to come up with theories and Philosophies to try and do God’s work for him we would be better off. What if you only quoted the scripture and lived by that scripture regardless if it interfered with Man’s ways, creeds, and theology? If I did that I can stand in front of God without fear of anything. If his scripture says Christ said “The ONLY True God is the Father” (John 17:3)and I quoted that scripture and taught that to others because that is what is said instead of trying to read into it and create other concepts, The God we serve wouldn’t and couldn’t condemn me for that. But if I take that same scripture and start creating other thoughts and basis for that statement elsewhere, then I’m doing something that isn’t needed or required of God and then it’s me who is doing this. This leads to sin and judgment especially if I’m wrong about that path. This is something God could judge me for. Where we fail is that we as a man, have to be able to explain everything(pride) to make it fit our comfort levels, the way our society operates now 2000 years later, etc, etc. We take that scripture and then put it up against another scripture in an effort to try and make it fit Man’s reasoning. And while this is needed sometimes, it isn’t when it comes to the requirement of man to do so connecting it to your salvation. Example: Isaiah 9:6 says Christ would be Called Mighty God. What man does is takes that scripture and John 17:3 and they try and make sense of the scripture’s seemly conflict. This then creates a theory base that spreads into other areas and before long what you have is a denomination based on two or more different ways to look at those scriptures instead of just accepting that they say this and leave it to God to explain once you stand in front of him. During my walk, I have found that if you look hard enough and unbiasedly, you will find something in scripture that could be used to support every single theory in every denomination on the planet. But the simple truth is the words in the scripture never change even if they go against those theories and denominations of others. The Words in the Scriptures are the same for the most part(different translations, of course, play a role) and if you can ever see that there is safety in them over trying to battle through the creeds and doctrines of man, you will find peace. Again, keep in mind, if you believe in only his Word and quote his Word for your direction in life, God will not Judge you for this. But if you theorize and create different thoughts and doctrines in your attempt to show you have figured it out and are wrong, you can be judged for this and God have mercy on you if you have led others down that road as well. Salvation begins with Christ being the Son of the living God and The awaited Messiah. It is completed in the faith that he died for your sins and rose 3 days and 3 nights later. Not one single scripture requires you to explain Christ as God, a god, trinity or anything more for your salvation to count.
the study of the nature of God and religious belief.
religious beliefs and theory when systematically developed.
Is it possible? Can we have this world please? Do you remember when you were saved by Grace and faith? Before the Greek and Hebrew text studies? Before the definition and need to say and repeat phrases like ontological Trinity, Oneness, and Arianism belief systems. Before you went out to debate with Mormons or Jehovah’s Witnesses because you just thought you really had them trapped in the corner, all the while you still had bones in your closet that you still needed to uproot causing them to represent a better view of God than you did. Long before you needed to be up front or have a position of authority in the church. Way back when you confessed Christ as you Lord and Savior? When you accepted him into your heart and all you wanted to do was to be closer to God through his Son and live holy? Remembering what it felt like to help others that needed help without judgement or shaming. Before you signed up for biblical study classes and studied prophecy meanings. Before you ever knew that there was anything called a literal translation of bible. Or before you even knew there was so many different bibles at all. You see, if you are like me, then you do remember these things. And if you are like me, you might have forgotten about what it was like back then because we are so weighed down with theology and man’s allegorical interpretations of scriptures. Now, that which is pure, innocent, and loving has been tied into Man’s attempts to define the One being that can’t be defined. What we had prior is what initially saved us. It is what is pure from Him. I personally have never felt a stronger connection to God than before theology became the center piece. And the biggest fact is that God never once required theology from us to be saved or to be his children. I just don’t see the need for a “Religious belief” if God seeks a “Relationship” with us.
John 1.1. “1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”
One the biggest debates in denominations is the fight over John 1.1. It has been a hot button for years. The reason why this has been an ongoing issue is that theology has made it a point to place ones Salvation requirement into the theories of man. No more is Salvation based on the scripture but also now based on theology statements and beliefs. I have said this before but Salvation from Christ and theology are not the same. Christianity isn’t Christendom nor the Counsel of Nicea. Men making up theories about how to define God don’t control your Salvation through Christ. Christ is the Messiah and son of the Living God Yahweh. This is what your Salvation begins and ends with. It is not based on the trinity or any other theology man has come up with. There is no place found in scripture that concludes your Salvation being based on you believing that Christ was God or a god. There is no Salvation requirement that makes one required to explain how God and his Son became what they are. There are no Salvation requirements that requires you to be baptised only in a specific church building or any other bondage requirement that theology and denomations have place on you. So when scripture like John 1.1 is spoken about so heavily it always comes back to the simple fact that there are no Captial letters in scripture so in reality god or God is never the point. However, “The God” indefinite article is. This creates a separation between the word vs The God. And this separation is only needed when you are comparing two separate beings while speaking and making a distinction between the two. When the Word is to referred to as God it is never with the indefinite article “The” as it was in the same sentence when referring to the Father.
Ernest Cadman: There are two issues affecting the translating of the verse, theology and proper application of grammatical rules. The commonly held theology that Jesus is God naturally leads one to believe that the proper way to render the verse is the one which is most popular. The opposing theology that Jesus is subordinate to God as his Chief agent leads to the conclusion that “… a god” or “… divine” is the proper rendering. Some scholars staunchly oppose the translation …a god, while other scholars believe it is possible or even preferable.
So the reason why the translation is more supported as “divine” is that the Son is subordinate to the Father. In fact the ultimate conclusion to the Son’s purpose is spelled out in great detail in 1Cor. 15:24-28. This verse boldly and undoubtedly tells you of the ulimate and last act of the Son.
24Then comes the end, when he(the son)delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25For he(the son)must reign until (until shows a expiration, meaning not forever)he(the Father) has put all his(Christ)enemies under his(Christ)feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For “God (the Father)has put all things in subjection under his(Christ)feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he(the Father)is excepted who put all things in subjection under him(Christ). 28When all things are subjected to him(Christ), then the Son himself will also be subjected to him(The Father)who put all things in subjection under him(Christ), that God(The Farher alone) may be all in all.
*Without biases debates this verse alone kills off a great many arguements over Christs true role and defined place. He is clearly not equal to the Father and the Father is head over all things and gave Christ every single thing he has ever been given, even his Life(John 6:57). Nobody gives the Father anything, it’s his by his own right and soverity. This verse also shows you why Christ calls the Father both his God and the One true God. Because in the end, by definition alone, the Father is and will be the Only true God. It also shows you that this is not tied into Christ humanity. This happens well after he is no longer a man and had already rose to heaven and put away death.
Even during very simple events Yeshua was always looked upon as being Only the Son of the Living God not God. He never once required others to look at him as the One true God. Even his disciples and loved ones believed him to be different from his Father.
But even now I know that whatever you ask from God, God will give you.” 23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” John 11:22
And Yeshua said to them, “But what is it you are saying about me as to who I am?” Shimeon answered and he said to him, “You are The Messiah, The Son of THE LIVING GOD.” Mark 8:29 Aramaic bible.
In both of these accounts you see very clear that Mary spoke of Christ and God as separate beings not one of the same. She clearly understood and saw Christ as the Son of God, not God. And then on the second account Christ himself gave Credit to his disciple when the disciple simply referred to Christ as the Son of the Living God and Messiah. Christ himself said that this knowledge only came from the Father and that this was the foundation of his Church. He never once determined the foundation of the church to based on theology, the trinity, or if he was God or a god. Christ being the Jew’s Messiah and him being the Son of the Living God was the only key.
So the focus should be on what Christ focused on. Him being the Messiah and the Son of the Living God. But for years we have been told otherwise for so long we lash out others that bring up facts like I have above. Once we settle down and move away from anger we then move to try and justify our beliefs or make excuses for them. We do this because it’s much easier to go on accepting tradition than to fight it. It’s much easier to go alone with the majority of the beliefs than to stand alone against others. I mean I can’t blame others for not wanting to accept things. You do have verses that declare solidly that Christ is called God. The one who sits at the throne should be called God but issue is that this same God we identify as Christ still has a God over him that he has to answer to. That same God he answers to, answers to nobody.
Yeshua said to her. “Don’t cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to join my Father, and go join my brothers and say to them that I ascend to join my Father and your Father, my God, and your God.” John 20:17
So if Christ says that this God is his and our God we should listen because Christ knew that the identity of God he was given when he was seated on the throne would not be forever as shown above. This is why I submit that the term “Divine” over God or a god is a better translation for John 1:1. While still understanding that even if “God” is used, the key point is that Christ isn’t his Father nor is equal to him because you can never be equal to someone that gave you your position and power because it’s not yours by yourself. The Father is the whole reason Christ has life, the throne, power and glory. Not one time did anyone have to instruct the angels to worship The Father. The Father doesn’t exist because of the Son or Holy Spirit( for the trinity believers). The Father is eternal through and through. He has never died and can never die and has all power because it is his to begin with. It was never bestowed upon him like it was with the Son. These are flat out facts that can not be argued biblically or even with common sense. You may not like these facts but they are facts none the less. Until the next time.
The debate has gone on for hundreds of years. The birth place or breeding ground for all Theologies starts with The Council of Nicea. The challenge that exists in all denominations is what to do with God and his Son. We have a need to define them even when they don’t ask for it. We have made this need a defining moment in people’s salvations. We no longer ask if they simply believe in the Son of God/Messiah and his Father. We now need them to confess that God is a Trinity( that somehow the Son is really equal to the Father), or that The Father and Christ are the exact same person, or that Joseph Smith is a profit, or that the Jehovah’s Witnesses are the “Only” Gateway and Organization that God trust and uses in all his ways. None, I repeat “none” of this is a required step for anyone’s salvation. This is when man’s ego gets the best of him and he feels that his theology replaces Salvation requirements for those who wish to be saved. To reiterate again, it does not. The reason why The Father never required such a requirement from anyone was that he being God is much more than anyone can possibly understand let alone come up with a Theology that explains Him. His Son even confirmed that only he truly knows his Father and only the Father could truly reveal his Son as our Savior. Truly I say today, you will be with me in paradise. These true words were spoken by Christ and further proves that no such requirement of Baptism in water, confession of Trinity or Oneness was ever done and yet just by accepting that Christ didn’t belong on a Pole/Tree and that he just might be the Son of God and Messiah, this man received salvation and was granted internal life with Christ. This proves that really every single thing granted or removed is in Christ’s hand’s thanks to His Father and God Yahweh. There is no separate and different path but Christ. There is no extra set of rituals but Christ. And ultimately, according to 1 Corinthians 15:28 there will be no other but the Head over all things, offices, positions and over all people even the Son, The Father (seated as God and Master) when all is done. This one fact alone is hard to deal with if you stand on what you were told to believe instead of what the scripture really say. Men that believe in the trinity try their best to explain away things like this but can’t. Men that believe in Oneness try and do the same thing but also fail. Nobody is just willing to allow the scripture to speak for themselves. And when I say scripture I mean the original writings, not some bible that has pushed out lies in hopes of furthering a particular Theology that Roman put in place. So what is the right thing to do here? Honestly, I have been seeking that my whole life. I still haven’t found out one perfect church or teacher that teaches and knows all things. The last one that I heard about took off in the middle of the air to go back to his Father and God. All I do know is what the bible says. Christ is the Son of the Living God. He is our enthroned King and we await his return. His Father and God is our Father and God who has granted his Son Life and in turn, through our faith in his son and the Son’s sacrifice, we will have eternal life through his Son relying solely on God’s Holy Spirit to power us through our life’s trials and challenges as we witness to all of mankind about the wonderful Gift of Salvation and our responsibility of keeping and honoring that gift of Salvation by remaining Holy for our God is Holy. Amen!